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Author Topic: [NSFW?] What Jungle Fire really looks like.  (Read 80451 times)
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« Reply #25 on: Jan 08 '07, 16:55:52 »

Interesting, I reckon that the Rakyn we have seen so far has been in his summer-fur ?

Hahaha, the Rakyn you've seen so far has been dead. His fur could have been electric blue with a mohawk down his spine, and it wouldn't signify anything other than his whims. Tongue
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« Reply #26 on: Jan 08 '07, 16:59:01 »

.... oh yeah, that was a bit of derail I guess, sorry about that. Grin

Derail? Here? Innnnnconceivable!

What was the topic again?


... for some odd reason, an image of an old, shaggy, mean, one-eyed, white-siberian-tiger-like ferenabu came to mind when I read what Kael wrote. A regular bad guy of a Ferenabu. He would be huge, strong, white and still able to somehow hide in the dark, his one eye glowing malevolently yellow/orange in the dark as a supressed flame of violence just wanting to be released. Sitting there creeping you out as he licks his wide mouth of teeth & fangs, yellowed with age. Like something straight out of an Inspector Carnado cartoon!

Interesting mental image... only a couple of things don't work so well ... there are no white fere and there are no tiger fere, and no white tiger fere. D'oh!

And I think it's Canardo.
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« Reply #27 on: Jan 08 '07, 17:13:54 »

ok, ok .. instead of a tiger-like, he'd be a mean old tom of a sort.
And no white fere ? But that's splendid, it would make him stand out even more ... could be an albino Fere ?

Whoops ... yes, it is indeed Canardo ... placed that 'r' in the wrong spot I did.
I loved the bad guy cat, Rasputin (he's in the background), because despite his madness, and enormous cruelty, there was something believable about him.
Besides, russian names are great for villains!
Great comic, in my opinion.
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« Reply #28 on: Jan 08 '07, 17:19:45 »

Aye, a great comic. Some powerful scenes. Remember the one where Rasputin walks in the lake, blinded, carrying, if I recall, his dead daughter? Sokal's comics are impressive, not like the usual superhero-crap...
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« Reply #29 on: Jan 08 '07, 17:42:43 »

Yeah, he basically did it out of love ... a misguided and twisted love, absolutely, but for love nonetheless.


... now I want to read it again!
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« Reply #30 on: Jan 08 '07, 19:20:08 »

And I want to read it for the first time? Shocked Would I be able to find it at your typical comic shop? (Really neat one downtown at Pike Place here, they have all sorts of older stuff.)
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« Reply #31 on: Jan 08 '07, 19:22:03 »

I dunno... I've never seen it available in North America, but sometimes these comic shops surprise you.

Edit: even Amazon.com only knows about the french-language versions. Were they ever translated to English, do you know Anker?
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« Reply #32 on: Jan 08 '07, 19:23:13 »

Oh *looks at the cover scan again* Right, it's not in english. Sad
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« Reply #33 on: Jan 08 '07, 19:24:15 »

But they've translated them into a bunch of languages. Surely English is one...
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« Reply #34 on: Jan 08 '07, 19:34:33 »

Dunno .. I read it in Danish, so it's conceivable.
Don't think I've ever seen it in english though.
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« Reply #35 on: Jan 08 '07, 19:36:35 »

Sorry totally off-topic, but are you Danish, Anker? O_o

BoT: I just this topic and I like the change in Ketai's propotions (sp?) though she was just as cool before ^__^
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« Reply #36 on: Jan 08 '07, 20:05:12 »

Wait wait wait...So the grand new plan for the ferenabu is....Stylish new fanny-packs?


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« Reply #37 on: Jan 08 '07, 20:26:39 »

Regarding the Canardo comic in english, the only I could find about it was this ... so as far as I can see, only the two first was translated, which is a shame since the latter ones were the better ones.

Sorry totally off-topic, but are you Danish, Anker? O_o

Yes, I am. Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: Jan 08 '07, 20:29:12 »

What?! That's the 2005 model. Feydir, get with the program. 2007 model is where it's at.
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« Reply #39 on: Jan 08 '07, 20:29:22 »

@ Feydir: 
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« Reply #40 on: Jan 09 '07, 11:50:48 »

Uhm, oke. *Kicks the topic back into gear*


Hmm. I'll need to restrain myself for this one...

I, for one, feel that it's rather silly to get in a hissy-fit about nudity of any kind. Especially when it's artistic nudity. People draw nudes all the time in art schools, and it's hardly a wierd thing once ya get used to it. [On that note, I think you've got it backwards... children are more likely to eschew clothing than adults are, in my experience.  Tongue] Nudity, by itself, is most definitely not an 'adult' thing. (To avoid getting into a rant about cultural taboos... *ahem*... I'll stop there.)

Anyways, I like the redesign above. Looks very appropriately feline, and takes in some aspects that I was actually going to suggest.
I have no suggestions at this point in time for improvement.

(Lurking since early 2006. Yay me.  Tongue)
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« Reply #41 on: Jan 09 '07, 16:39:47 »

On that note, I think you've got it backwards... children are more likely to eschew clothing than adults are, in my experience. 

Most certainly. That's why we've had them in panties and adult fere in clothes up till now. But, well, in this day and age with child pornography being a big problem, it's just an area we are downright afraid of going to. 

But in general I'd say we both very much agree with you.  Which, err, I suppose is a given since we wouldn't be taking their clothes away if we thought nudity was inherently "adult". Tongue

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« Reply #42 on: Jan 09 '07, 17:02:57 »

We don't feel there's anything particularly "adult" about nudity, but we also recognize that there are a great variety of people who feel otherwise. Unfortunately we feel that nudity, especially male nudity, is something that with some readers could get in the way of the story itself. We don't want that; Jungle Fire is as much about the story as it is about the world, and we'd like to avoid a situation where an accurate depiction of the world scares readers from the story. And yet, we don't want to sacrifice accurate depiction of the world for the story either... this ain't no damned Disney... so, yeah,  eat the cake and have it too.

That said, I like the changes to the ferenabu that were borne of this conversation, and I'm glad you do too Smiley Just a little more inhuman... and potentially a way to tone down the nudity so that while there will be nudity in JF, it won't be so in-your-face as to distract readers from the story.

And, in conclusion, welcome,  Zyrusticae!
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« Reply #43 on: Jan 09 '07, 17:55:30 »

Well as far as male nudity, do the males need to have human Genitals? Cause I know my cat is a male but really all the bits an pieces are lost in his fur. Then again, he's a real furball. But my point is cats are hung like cats and them not wearing pants shouldn't be a huge deal *Get it?" Huge deal"? They're poorly endowed? It's all very funny*

Failing that, you could always utilize artfully placed bushes and shrubs....Clever use of camera angles....
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« Reply #44 on: Jan 09 '07, 17:59:15 »

I dunno about your cat, but mine hes got alot more too him than just fur, and his name is fuzzle.
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« Reply #45 on: Jan 09 '07, 18:05:46 »

Maybe it's just my cat. Poor guy, now i've embarassed him.

Fuzzle is a stupid name for a cat. That's clearly a rabbit name.
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« Reply #46 on: Jan 09 '07, 18:07:58 »

Fere definitely don't have human genitals.  The hose, like with cats, is retracted when not needed. But...err, the un-snipped male cats I've seen tend to have pretty obvious bits.  Some are downright "hoiy, how do you sit down?!" while some, like Feydir's cat's I guess, do get obscured.

These fere being shorthaired, it would be very obvious.  

There will be cases where they don't wear the fashionable hip pack.  Just like you don't keep your wallet on you always. (And I do think the hip pack makes sense...they aren't a materialistic species, but they do like to keep some odds and ends around at times, so right near the center of gravity makes sense to me).   I don't want to always use artfully placed things...it gets obvious after a while...BUT obvious danglies would distract from the story, so if I can get away with camera angle and the like, I will be doing that.  
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« Reply #47 on: Jan 09 '07, 18:22:32 »

A tidbit of trivia about the ferenabu: the fere male don't really have "danglies." In human males the testes at rest hang some distance from the body, and retract close to the body at time of arousal. In ferenabu the testes are close to the body at all times, so they don't ever "dangle." But, and here's a big but, when the male ferenabu are aggressive, the testes retract to within the body for protection.

This little peculiarity has an interesting consequence for the ferenabu as a species: ferenabu males who are aggressive tend to breed less, because when the testes are retracted inside the body they're not at suitable temperature for producing viable sperm. As a consequence, the more docile fere breed more, and over the course of evolution the species has become pretty mellow. Not totally unaggressive, but pretty mellow. There's also no appreciable difference in aggressiveness between male and female ferenabu.
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« Reply #48 on: Jan 09 '07, 19:34:46 »

The more you know... *shooting star graphics*
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« Reply #49 on: Jan 09 '07, 20:22:28 »

If that was true for barbarians as well ... Anker would have many, many children now. laugh
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